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  • Published on: 25 November 2021
    Frustrated coup to the LDL role in atherosclerosis paradigm

    In this article, the authors follow a very ambitious objective: to refute the LDL central role in atherosclerosis paradigm. There is an ironic statement that quotes: if you point to the King, be sure not to leave him alive. Here I’m afraid this article leaves the King alive because the methodology chose had inferior quality of evidence in relation to a well-done metanalisys like –for example- the one which was published by the Cholesterol Treatment Trialist (CTT).
    In order to the studies included in this selection there were some inconsistencies. First of all, the WOSCOPS trial and the AFCAPS/TexCAPS trial were used to analyze the effect of a reduction at least of 30% in LDL but these two pivotal articles showed a reduction of 20% and 25%, respectively. In fact, in the pilots’ study there were only 157 deaths from 6605 patients randomized so the study hadn’t enough statistical power to analyze the mortality endpoint. In the same direction, the selection of the SEAS study was controversial because in spite of achieves a 61% reduction in LDL, the population included hadn’t a clear indication of statin treatment in relation of ethical considerations, affecting the results in order to MACE and mortality. Also it was very polemical to include trials as SHARP or AURORA with patients on dialysis because we know this kind of treatment actives a lot of mechanisms of morbidity and mortality with independence of the LDL level. Other weak point is to analyze mortality taking in...

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  • Published on: 25 November 2021
    Frustrated coup to the LDL role in atherosclerosis paradigm

    In this article, the authors follow a very ambitious objective: to refute the LDL central role in atherosclerosis paradigm. There is an ironic statement that quotes: if you point to the King, be sure not to leave him alive. Here I’m afraid this article leaves the King alive because the methodology chose had inferior quality of evidence in relation to a well-done metanalisys like –for example- the one which was published by the Cholesterol Treatment Trialist (CTT).
    In order to the studies included in this selection there were some inconsistencies. First of all, the WOSCOPS trial and the AFCAPS/TexCAPS trial were used to analyze the effect of a reduction at least of 30% in LDL but these two pivotal articles showed a reduction of 20% and 25%, respectively. In fact, in the pilots’ study there were only 157 deaths from 6605 patients randomized so the study hadn’t enough statistical power to analyze the mortality endpoint. In the same direction, the selection of the SEAS study was controversial because in spite of achieves a 61% reduction in LDL, the population included hadn’t a clear indication of statin treatment in relation of ethical considerations, affecting the results in order to MACE and mortality. Also it was very polemical to include trials as SHARP or AURORA with patients on dialysis because we know this kind of treatment actives a lot of mechanisms of morbidity and mortality with independence of the LDL level. Other weak point is to analyze mortality taking in...

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    Conflict of Interest:
    None declared.
  • Published on: 25 November 2021
    Burden of proof or disproof?
    • Luis C L Correia, Associate professor of medicine and chief cardiologist Bahiana School of Medicine and Public Health

    In a systematic review of cholesterol reduction clinical trials, DuBroff et al claimed that “the evidence presented challenges cardiovascular disease prevention through targeted reductions of LDL-cholesterol”. However, it should be noted that the concept authors claim to challenge has never been proved, nor properly tested (1). This raises the question of whether there is a need to disprove an unproven concept. In science, the burden is on the proof.

    Nevertheless, if it was to disprove, we must recognize the limitations of the present study. Regarding testing "the target paradigm", the authors first categorized the trials as to whether they did or did not meet average LDL-cholesterol reduction recommended by AHA/ACC 2018 guidelines (2) for individuals. Then, they intended to test the association between reaching this arbitrary target (suggested by one specific guideline) with the trial being positive or negative regarding death or cardiovascular events. However, no statistical inference was performed for this main analysis and no significance level was presented for the interaction between reaching the target and having clinical benefit. Instead, in this systematic review that intended to test a hypothesis that implied interaction phenomenon, the authors "intentionally did not perform a meta-analysis" under the justification that trials “involved three different drug classes”.

    Finally, as the authors noted, it was a systematic review of s...

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    Conflict of Interest:
    None declared.